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11 Stout Frame is a talent in the Toughguy branch of the Windrose Talent System. It grants a flat additive bonus to maximum health. The bonus does not scale off Vitality; it is an independent flat value added on top of whatever health Vitality already provides.
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33 Summary
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55 PropertyValueBranchToughguyTier2Max rank3Points per rank1PrerequisiteTier 1 Toughguy investment
66 Effect by Rank
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88 RankMaximum HealthRank 1+120Rank 2+180Rank 3+240
99 Points Versus Vitality
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1111 SourceCostMax HP GainedStout Frame rank 33 talent points+240Vitality18 stat points+234 (at 13 HP per point)
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1414 Considered close to mandatory for every melee build. The +240 Max HP at rank 3 is a bigger absolute jump than spending 18 Vitality (at about 13 HP per point, roughly 234 HP) for only 3 talent points, and it stacks on top of the Pikeman 2-piece bonus.
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1616 Pairs Well With
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1818 VitalityPikeman SetJust a Flesh Wound
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2020 See Also
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2222 Toughguy branch overviewTalent System the four-branch progression frameworkStats and Talents stat allocation and respec
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2424 Build Role
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2626 Stout Frame is the max-HP backbone. Paired with Marathon Runner, it is the most common opening 6 talent points on any build aiming for Toughguy survival, giving both a deep health pool and a deep stamina pool before the build specializes further.
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2828 Math Example
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3030 A Vitality-13 character with base HP approximately 300 gains +240 Max HP at rank 3 Stout Frame, reaching 540 Max HP for only 3 talent points. Comparable Vitality investment to reach +240 HP would require approximately 18 Vitality points (at 13 HP per point), a far worse efficiency per point.
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3232 Notes
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3434 Flat additive, does not scale with Vitality. It complements Vitality rather than replacing it, so most tanks still invest in both.Stacks with the Pikeman Set 2-piece bonus (+160 Max HP) for +400 total Max HP from set bonus plus talent at rank 3.